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Poster: Pithecanthropus Date: Mar 20, 2012 8:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why jerry hated the doors

@cream-puff-war: "Manzarek was assuming a lot there, by asking to use the band's keyboards, I guess."

I can't see it as being *that* out of line, especially since the Dead refused to allow any of their equipment to be moved (except for the guitars)." An organ's an organ; there's not really anything that can happen to an organ if you let someone else play it. I'm sure that, as Ray tried to explain, it did look a bit ridiculous that the Doors had to squeeze their own equipment up there, including the identical keyboards, not to mention Densmore having to play the set at stage level rather than on the riser. It's the Doors who should have been pissed off if anyone.

@cream-puff-war: "Manzarek was a serious musician, not a drunken poet in leather pants... didn't Jerry and Pigpen see that to some degree?"
Later on that. "

Besides the L.A. thing, I think it was the image generally. At this point the Doors had a good deal of counterculture/street cred, despite which Morrison's looks nevertheless brought in a lot of teenybopper girls; you can hear the shrillness in some of their audiences. The next most prominent member, Manzarek, favored mod suits or pants-and-jacket combos although omitting the tie. Serious rock artists were supposed to dress like peasants and glower moodily at the camera when the album cover was shot. The Doors got the glowering part right but otherwise their image was wrong for 1967.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: May 18, 2012 12:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why jerry hated the doors

Yes yeah, The Doors didn't look like other rock bands in 1967.

And they were threatening to re-imagine rock n roll in songs such as "The End"

The day I was supposed to run away in '67 to the Haight-Ashbury, I heard "Light My Fire" for the first time on the car radio, was hooked on The Doors instead of The Dead, I had my Mom to drive me to the Westlake Mall record shop to score the new Doors 45 instead.